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No money? No marry

Local men, listen up. According to a survey conducted by the Shin Min Daily News, women in Singapore require that their prospective partners earn a minimum of $4,000 to $5,000, before they will consider marrying them.

Local TV artiste and compere Quan Yifeng discussed this issue on a talkshow programme recently. The topic was about "How much should a Singaporean man earn" and how much is enough?
 

The three female guests invited to speak on the talkshow agreed that a good amount would be between $4,000 to $5,000. A shocked Quan Yifeng quipped: "No wonder Singaporean men can't get wives."

A local netizen posted this topic in an online forum in May. Till today, the topic has raged on, with many forummers posting their comments and opinions. The thread has accumulated more than 200 responses so far.
 

Regarding the minimum that a man should earn, a reporter from the Chinese daily posed this question to 20 men and women. Most of them said that having a salary that is good enough to sustain your lifestyle would be sufficient. However, most agreed that $4,000 to $5,000 is a "reasonable amount" if one is thinking of setting up a family.
 

Without that minimum amount, they reason, it would be difficult for a man to support his wife, let alone think about having children and allowing them to grow up in a comfortable environment.


The men say: "I would say the same too"
>> Mr Su Jun Long, 27, an accountant, earns $2,400 per month. He says: "I am not worried about not finding a wife, especially not a materialistic one. Actually, it is not important how much I earn, but more of how much I spend. However, when I am thirty-plus, I would also hope I am able to earn a minimum of $3,000 and above."

 
>> Mr Zhang Yi Zheng, 26, an auditor, earns $2,100 per month. He says: "$4,000 to $5,000 is a reasonable amount to expect. But at my age, it is normal to earn only $2000 plus. My girlfriend earns about the same amount as I do."
 

>> Mr Huang, 30, an IT personnel who earns $2,500 per month, says: "Contentment is key. Money is a factor, but it should not be the main consideration. Having a low income would be a problem too, so a salary of $4,000 to $5,000 is not too much to ask."

 
The women say: "It is just enough to support a family"
>> Ms Shen Yu Tai, 27, a bank officer, says: "Actually, $2,000 is enough. But it is understandable that women would require their husbands to earn $4,000 to $5,000. After all, we all want to be able to live a comfortable life. That amount is required to start a family as well."

>> Ms Pan, 27, a writer, says: "It is not important how much he earns, but he must be good at saving. The salary ranges for industries differ, so there shouldn't be a specific requirement, as long as he earns above $2,500.

>> Ms Tan, 30, a customer service officer, says: "Realistically, an income of $4,000 to $5,000 should be expected. Generally, as long as you have a degree, and have worked for a few years, you should be able to draw that amount."
  

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readers' comments
4k-5k enough...10k-20k also not enough when your "vision" gets broader when u start to have more money...we always ask a question ...how much is enough to retire...1 million...10million?...i can tell u ...100 million also not enough. why? because when u have only 1 million, u will only look at things that cost 1 million (or those things that cost 1 million will somehow look for u)...BUT when u have 10 million, u will start to look for 10 million stuff (they will find u too)...this is human nature...What is money? Money is something that buy convenience!....It buys away feeling, kinship, family bonding, friendship...anything....eg a pack of 5kg Thai fragrance rice cost only$10 and u know how long they last...weeks...but $10 would probably enough for 2 meals in a foodcourt...nobody want to/can/got energy to cook now ...because they want convenient...we are a spoilt generation....everything to be served that can be served .....
Posted by kaypohts on Sun, 15 Feb 2009 at 12:31 PM
I think for this topic, they need to increase their sampling size, also add in the education level of the people who participate in the survey. I really don't think the data from the talk show is fair to represent the majority of the ladies in Singapore. Under the rules of Freakanomics, talk show must always try to generate huge audience and thus they have to spice up the topics. hehehe
To be fair to the guys in Singapore, we spend 2 years in the army, do the ladies appreciate that? While other guys from other countries are pursuing their degrees and certifications, we are used as deterrent to ensure the safety of this country and ensure the economic safety net of this country so that foreigners can come invest, work and marry Singapore girls.
We lose out so so much compare to our age group peers .....
Posted by Poor Citizen on Sun, 15 Feb 2009 at 10:09 AM
Well, I think I am not siding men or women, I am more of realistic. Yes, there are many women over 30 still single, but there are many reasons to it. 1)They feel these days marriages cannot be trusted.2)Indeed, they want a man who earns enough before marrying. 3) They prefer to be single.

Pls bear in mind these days living standard in Spore is so high, $4-$5k is nothing. For a family of 4? Just do a simple calculation and you will know why ladies have that expectation. It cost so much to raise a kid, and if you don't pump in the money for the kid, the kid will not catch up with those who get the extra lesssons etc. Transport, meals, medical, groceries, PUB, toiletries, household bills and many more. If you happen to work in CBD area, your lunch could easily be $4-$5 .....
Posted by SYTeoTammie on Fri, 13 Feb 2009 at 16:07 PM
In this captalism market, everyone will want to have a better lifstyle. Whether it is in Singapore or oversea, you can see that all women will want to marry to a man who can give them a good life.

SGP women demand to marry to a man who earns S$ 4K to S$ 5K, there is no right or wrong. Look at some of those Vietnamese or Chinese or even Indonesian women who are married to SGP men. They also request to marry to a man who has a lifestyle better than what the women have back home. To these ladies, if a man earns S$ 2,500/month, it is not bad for them.

If you look at those ladies from the major cities, they will be the same as our SGP women. They will demand to marry to a man who can earn more. .....
Posted by cujay69 on Fri, 13 Feb 2009 at 14:36 PM
Girls with high materials expectations should go find Arab man. They can give you materials comfort as well as good personal non stop comfort till you're hospitalized and look like my grandma's age!!!

Quan Yi Feng, I think you need that kind of Arab Man to give you those 2 comforts.

Besides, remember YiFeng, Singapore man are busy doing this lucrative business of find Arab man for those kind of "B's"
Posted by Uh La La on Fri, 13 Feb 2009 at 11:29 AM
hey guys, if your girlfriend demands that you earn $X amount or own a car before she'll marry you, drop her ASAP! It's not whether you can meet her demand; it's about whether her priority in the relationship is acceptable to you.

It's like a man demanding his girlfriend cooks like a pro before he'll marry her. It's quite an insult to her.

Marriage is just a new phase in a relationship and not an end in itself; spare yourself the agony downstream.
Posted by laukinkon on Fri, 13 Feb 2009 at 10:57 AM


Our Government can help too. Enact a wage law that stipulate that man should get higher starting salary as compared to woman. Say for graduates, Man starting pay may $4200 and Woman starting pay may be $ 3200. So ? More woman would not remain single then :p
Posted by clerics on Fri, 13 Feb 2009 at 10:48 AM


Singapore man can also be practical too : If woman cannot cook like the standard of Tung Lok restaurant. The man would not marry the woman too.:D
Posted by clerics on Fri, 13 Feb 2009 at 10:30 AM
Even Quan Yi Feng is feeling her hubby is not making enough and she said no wonder man cant find woman.

Most educated or high income women are looking at material that a man can provide. $4000 to $5000 is minimum expectation, this is why a lot of single women out there, in their 30s and still looking and waiting. And some eventually marry white guys in their late 30s.

Its a material world created by the education and meritocracy system of Singapore. Everything centres around profits and money. So likewise, when a woman chooses a man, money comes into the mind. Whether she can continue to shop and splurge after being tied down is of critical importance.

Recently my cousin's girl friend is requesting a condo before marriage and my friend's wife is also asking for a condo.
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Posted by EnigmaE on Fri, 13 Feb 2009 at 10:22 AM
well, my salary is definitely not at their benchmark. Also, in this economic downturn, many who were enjoying even my salary has been let go. Hope this reality gives some perception to the gah'men who always blame its own citizens for not enough children.
Posted by JackChen on Fri, 13 Feb 2009 at 09:51 AM

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